Road Warrior #4 DWI

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Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby jaltice » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:15 pm

Jessie took first, No Excuse second and Scout third. About as much variation in weather as you could hope for, or tolerate.

Posted some first-day pics at: https://picasaweb.google.com/1170327433 ... 714RW4DWI#

Unfortunately, I have a hard time steadying the camera when singlehanding.....
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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby jtieken » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:31 am

Jim.
All the pics and video look great! I went through them a couple of times with envy, I wish I could have been there, even if only to have another yellow hull on the course. :-)
Thanks for bringing your camera,
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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby cklamp » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:47 pm

Who's boat 512?

I'm hoping to pick up a truck camper soon, so maybe Joanna and I will be able to make more of these...

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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby jaltice » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:32 am

I employed Christian Lamp-approved standing and deck rigging settings. Loose shrouds & backstay, jib cars mid-track. Stayed competitive, but need to work on sail form to gain any position on the other boats. Josh & Hans (#512) stayed very competitive both days, even with original sails. It's got a fixed keel and I wondered how that affected their performance vis-a-vis the other swing keels.
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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby cklamp » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:54 pm

Personally I would think the fixed keel is going to be faster... more of the weight down below as opposed to a bit extra up top for the keel trunk, etc... also it should be a smoother hull since there is no keel well hole, battens, etc...

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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby Scout » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:50 am

"Jessie took first, No Excuse second and Scout third."

This is the results as posted on the DWI website but Gary didn't take into consideration a throw out for the series. I've asked him a few times to correct the mistake which would affect other fleets as well but so far I haven't gotten a response.
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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby Scout » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:55 am

" Josh & Hans (#512) stayed very competitive both days, even with original sails. It's got a fixed keel and I wondered how that affected their performance vis-a-vis the other swing keels." /quote]

Josh asked me to encourge the fleet to allow them to race with us even though they have a slightly different boat (fixed keel).. I don't have a problem with that.
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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby Scout » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:11 am

Gary just posted the correct results for the DWI... 1. USA 2063 Jessie San Juan 21 Jim Miller 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 [2] 7.0
2. USA 52 Scout San Juan 21 Paul Von Stubbe 4 3 2 2 8/DNS 1 2 [8] 14.0
3. USA 17 No Excuse San Juan 21 Michael Dukes 1 4 3 3 2 3 3 [4] 15.0
4. USA 366 Parveen Clark San Juan 21 Mk I Jim Altice 3 5 4 4 4 4 4 [5] 23.0
5. USA 512 512 Josh Jones 5 2 5 5 3 5 5 [5] 25.0
6. 1524 Charmed Juan San Juan 21 Stephen Jensen 8/DNC 8/DNC 8/DNC 8/DNS 8/DNS 8/DNS [8] 40.0
7. USA 1745 Juasp San Juan 21 fixed keel Josh Jones 8/DNC 8/DNC 8/DNC 8/DNS 8/DNS 8/DNS [8] 40.0
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Re: Road Warrior #4 DWI

Postby cklamp » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:10 pm

I'd likely quit the class if we started allowing fixed keels the same starts as us, and I probably would have protested this race. I have no problem letting fixed race fixed if they so wanted, so if they can find a few more fixed keel boats that want to tow and launch with us and race fixed on fixed akin to the differences we have in Working vs Spinnaker class i'm all for it.

But, the fixed keel boats aren't just ”slightly” different, they're very different. The keel isn't even the same shape, it's completely different, there is no keel trunk inside the boat, no gaping hole for the keel to go up into. No crummy distorted keel gasket to cause drag, no battens or retainers either if you have the aluminum gasket. So I don't have any clue who or what they would race again, you can't launch a fixed keel at most of the venues we go to.

The differences are vast enough that it's a completely different boat IMO, and not a topic I'd ever want to discuss at our meetings. There just isn't a single good reason to.

There are numerous one design legal sj21's out there that can be bought cheaply. There is one in port orchard for 1400$ as I recall right now.

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